Bottom line, Wickliffe Draper's money makes the journal possible. Using stories from sciences past to understand our world. Lisa:Rigo, I feel like you're about to tell me that there's a secret clique or confederacy if you will of rich racists sitting in a basement somewhere funding every racist academic. Lisa:Because they don't want to take credit for their deeply held beliefs in public. Barry:He is eventually recognized by the Nazi government in 1936, both because of his work in the sterilization area, but also because he was a major proponent of the so called Racial Integrity Laws, the laws that prohibited people from being married if they were from different races. Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. It was much more prevalent in the earlier part of the 20th Century, but as it has become less and less popular among, uh, the academic mainstream, the few people who still adhere to it are those funded by Pioneer. He wrote the Funding of Scientific Racism. This is why the book claims blacks are disproportionately living in poverty and also more likely to commit crime. Suddenly I'm in the suburbs of New York, and I'm walking down, uh, a street and a car drives by, and there's, uh, a, a father and his son, and the son screams out the window at me, you know, something like, "You dirty [expletive]." Keepers of the Flameis Episode 3ofInnate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race,a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. They also share the same funding source. Quality varies and some episodes may not be complete. The group behind it bombed a synagogue in 1958, just to give you a sense of who they were. Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer. on the Internet. The thesis advanced by authors, Charles Murray and the late Richard Herrnstein in the bell curve is that I Q is the best predictor of a person's success. He went to rallies and talked to white supremacists. He travels to Spain. This was also done to make it seem like there were more race scientists than there actually were. Rigo:One of Barry Mehler's racist subscriptions was a newspaper called The Thunderbolt. And I really don't think that that was a winning strategy. Rigo:No, not at all. He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administrations motives. William Shockley wasn't really producing anything new with their money, and he had a really prickly personality, so when his character got in the way of the message, The Pioneer Fund actually cut him off. He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? Listen to this. You know, for God's sakes, we're feeding them breakfast. Actually, this brings something up for me. So, what it suggested was that Draper and Pioneer really took the initiative in every case, and reached out to these people, and tried to subsidize them once it realized that these were people who were doing things that would be of interest to Pioneer's agenda. He's even polished when he starts talking about things like sex. Lisa:They just have to keep at it 'til the temperature changes. Rigo:Barry Mehler is 75 years old now, and he's retired from teaching. Television programsTelecommunications industry, MCI Communications CorporationLuce Press ClippingsAT & T (Firm), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225). Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Barry:I really got under their skin. I mean the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Bell Curve by Charles Murray, which was huge. Find thousands of books, manuscripts, visual materials and unpublished archives from our collections, Lisa:So you're telling me they didn't have to apply for grants, or have funding cycles, or write proposals. Lisa, could you read this quote from him? How does he keep getting the chance to put these ideas forward? By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. Enjoy! WebNeil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show 1993 - full show Kathleen Mosley 19.1K subscribers Subscribe 180K views 7 years ago Neil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show I never wasted a trip. TELEVISION ACADEMY and ACADEMY OF TELEVISION ARTS & SCIENCES are registered trademarks of ATAS. He was the first person to really call them out publicly. Richard Lynn was the editor of the Mankind Quarterly at this time. Lisa:This is exactly what The Pioneer Fund ultimately wanted, right? Rigo:Right. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. Just to give you an example of how this works, the journal Nature currently has an impact score of 40, and the Mankind Quarterly sits below one, but none of this mattered to the people in the Mankind Quarterly. And so you know where his head's at. What's it gonna be? You don't have to apply. Barry:Jerry Hirsch sued Roger Pearson, so we were able to get a deposition under oath, and I prepared a list for Jerry's attorney to simply ask, uh, Pearson, "Have you published under this name, this name, this name, this name?" on the Internet. And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. Rigo:And this is perhaps the greatest achievement of The Pioneer Fund, is by keeping the race science flame alive, there is an intellectual continuity for people like Sam Harris, and they don't have to start from scratch. Rigo:So he names names, Pearson, Jensen, Shockley, and its newest Pioneer star, Phillip Rushton, and because of this, he's called onto television shows like the Phil Donahue Show. WebDescription: Talk show host of the 1980s. You'd, you'd just hope you didn't cross over with him on any committees. They wanted to sue me for libel, and throughout my career, I have been at risk of being sued for libel because, you know, you, you call people Nazis, and, you know, they get upset, and no one has ever been happy that I exposed their racist and right wing connections. This becomes very clear when you start looking into the citations of the book. Rigo: Barry Mehler's TV appearances made Roger Pearson furious. Rigo: This is a clip of the film itself translated in English. Bill:He went on then to become the editor of a publication called The New Patriot. As critics at the time put it, these were old racist ideas with a new coat of paint. He fired almost all of the current faculty, and made openings for other neo Nazi scientists. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. And we just went down a whole list, and, you know, and he confirmed that he was all those people. Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4. Lisa:That blows right past yikes into holy crap territory. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. I want my name to be associated with my work. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Rigo:[laughs] Yeah. Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. He was inspired by Hans F. K. Gnther, the Third Reich's most prominent race scientist. He seemed to be enamored of his Army experience, and that was his primary identification all his life, especially since he never really had a job of any sort. The ideology, the quote, unquote, "scientific support for racial hierarchy," This stuff is getting mainstreamed in the 1990s, isn't it? Rigo:By keeping the race science flame alive, they created a foundation for the current wave of race scientists to build on. Lisa:Not surprised to hear that they're not just spewing hateful ideas, they're acting on them. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? Rigo:Yeah. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Second, it sometimes publishes valid news that I don't find elsewhere." This season we're going to talk about how racism and white supremacy have been baked into science , and how it's not about individual racists, or it's not about individual bad people, but in this story, there actually are individual bad people funding bad things. on the Internet. And you're a Neo Nazi and he added you back. Rigo:Arthur Jensen in particular got more than a million dollars from them. 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Lisa:Oh, right. Sometimes he goes through The Pioneer Fund, and sometimes he just gives money directly. web pages Rigo:Honestly, you're not that far off. Phil Donahue's So Pioneer Fund works hard to prop up scientists that they think are going to continue their message, and it gives the ideas credibility in a sense, right, because if they're continuing to get funding then their ideas must not be all that controversial. Episode 2 from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. Barry:They're the ones who are winning. After he lost a key New York outlet and KNBC-TV Channel 4 in Los Angeles announced it would not be renewing the show, he decided to quit rather than be canceled. Rigo:So Laughlin comes up with their first endeavor. So he's not just in academic conferences with Nazis, he's also quite literally on the battlefield with them. He ran the Phil Donahue show for almost 3 decades with nearly 7000 one-hour daily shows. Unless otherwise noted, this file is provided for educational and research purposes only. Now, while the video, the language in that video is profane. I would send in a membership. Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, Read all. And thus not remediable to major degrees by practical improvements in the environment. Rigo:Yes, and here's an example of that. I can't imagine how Barry Mehler feels watching this all explode and then kind of die down and become less controversial again. He took off his kippah and pretended he wasn't Jewish, and he embedded himself with neo Nazis. I have a position at Ferris State University. We were on the run. So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? Talk about context and urgency, that is what people understood, and that's why they were so upset at what I was doing. Barry:So I got a mailing from Canada from Ernst Zundel. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Donahue:and a big and larger genitals mean more promiscuity. 8 No. At this point, Barry Mehler decides not to become a rabbi, and instead pursues the history of science, and in particular, the history of Nazis and race science. The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. Lisa:I'm gonna pull my academic hat on for a second and say an impact score is basically something that measures the importance of a given journal, so the higher the impact score, the more influential it is, so you measure that by citations and references, who's used the journal and cited it in their work. So this guy was a revered physicist at Stanford. WebPhil Donahue Show Date Created 1981-03-24 Summary Telecommunications Discussion Former owner MCI Communications Corporation Originator Luce Press Clippings Subject Lisa:Ah, charming. Rigo:What's interesting about eugenics is that it's a dirty word now, but in the 1920s and the early 1930s, they were mainstream ideas, they were in vogue. The Pioneer Fund was just handing over cash. In 1967, Phil Donahue left his positions as news reporter and interviewer at WHIO radio and television in Dayton and became the host of a new television program, Phil Donahue Show on WLWD (now WDTN), also in Dayton. His new program replaced The Johnny Gilbert Show, when Gilbert left on short notice for Los Angeles for a hosting job. Rigo:Yeah. He wants us to mention that he has throat cancer, and that his voice is strained. Format Moving Image. WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. It was as if one person had finally realized what was going on, and he was sending out the warning signal. Jensen's vague ideas about intelligence being inherited were explicitly connected to the growing neo Nazi movement. Published through Distillations, the Science History Institutes highly acclaimed digital content platform, the project examines the scientific origins of support for racist theories, practices, and policies. Why would I publish under a pseudonym? Lisa:So what happened to The Pioneer Fund? WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo And then And then keeping them available as information that can be used when the atmosphere is more favorable to his kinds of ideas in eugenics. Lisa:So just setting the scene again for people listening, we're watching The Phil Donahue Show. Uh, they had the platform. It was interesting to learn that they would Draper would send them, like, Christmas presents basically, like literal, like, "Here's $50. Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, See production, box office & company info. They had to have two talking heads, and, and somebody had to speak for the other side for them to get their message out, and not only did I understand that, but I don't think that we run this. And I couldn't give a flying any longer and to the administration and no limit of an administrator is going to tell me how to teach my classes because I'm a tenured professor. The Bell Curve was The Pioneer Fund's biggest win when it was published in 1994. He was a legend in Silicon Valley. Those are the people who are the pioneers. 8 No. Rigo:Right. Rigo:Exactly, but he does it in a very polished away. But with the emergence of Shockley, they had a mainstream scientist on their team now, and they funded him lavishly from the quote, unquote, "Throne in New York" As they called Wickliffe Draper's house. Lisa:Hi, Rigo. This We're not making progress here. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America Jensen was willing to take a stand, and he knew what he was doing. Rigo:Draper's view stayed the same, but he knew enough to realize that the world's views had changed. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. ", And in a number of cases, it wasn't even money for the research, it was just money for the individuals, gifts, large gifts of personal checks to the people who carry on this research. EMMY, EMMYS, and the Emmy Statuette are registered trademarks and/or copyrights Of ATAS and NATAS. Rigo:In the end, he did not get sued for libel, but he did remain a thorn in the side of The Pioneer Fund. web pages Is this a secret conspiracy, or is any of it happening in the open? web pages Rigo:They're successful in keeping their names out of the press, and no one ties the race science they fund to them. What is the English language plot outline for Donahue (1967)? So here is a guy who's wiling to take a stand for racism, and the Pioneer was willing to give him anything to help him spread that news. He is an actor and producer, known for Body of War (2007), Donahue (1967) and The Bold and the Beautiful (1987). Barry's Jewish identity was visible to everyone all the time. Phil Donahue reminisces about the most nerve-racking episode of The Phil Donahue Show.New videos every afternoon at 3pm Monday-Friday!Subscribe To Marlo For more information, please contact. It doesn't care if it's good science, certainly, and you don't have to be the most productive academic in the world to get money from them. Barry:I don't need to have credit. Rigo: So I had a chance to Barry Mehler recently, and I asked him about the appearance on Phil Donahue three decades ago. They distributed one of Hitler's propaganda films to American high schools with English subtitles. Rigo:The seed of The Pioneer Fund starts in the early 1900s, with a guy named Wickliffe Preston Draper. Barry:It still is, but even ore so then. And so, they always had first, a, a sense of assurity that they were right, and also a sense of urgency, the same sense of urgency that I felt. They weren't seeing the things that Barry was seeing, so Mehler goes down the rabbit hole of white supremacist literature, and what he finds shocks him even more. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Instead, they used various combinations. Lisa:All pretty common accusations that anyone who is coming against neo Nazis, even today. Funding wasn't an issue for them, they had Wickliffe Draper. Rigo:So he actually publishes a lot, and one of the things he published was an article in a Nazi magazine. Barry:I want you to know that it was extremely important to me to make the connection to Nazis because that's what people understood. And not only survive, but was able to, um, make significant contribution to our understanding of what is actually going on. Paul: And then writes about it in an, a newspaper article that is syndicated and sent to a number of places around the country. Their last known grant was in 2019 to an organization based in Ohio whose president has written extensively about racial differences. He is among the most influential talk show hosts whose fans have nicknamed king of daytime talk.He was in 1996 ranked #42 on TV Guides 50 Greatest TV Stars of All Time. Lisa:So on one hand, you have a very bored, uh, very racist wealthy boy, and on the other, you have a rising American Nazi. Play all I mean, they hid themselves for decades, right, behind the scenes so they don't want someone who's gonna be a lightening rod for controversy. McNeil/Leher Report:Race remains one of this country's most divisive topics and a controversial book with racially charged findings hasn't helped the debate. Barry:One of the things that Roger Pearson writes about me in his chapter, The Strange Case of Barry Mehler, was that I mail out my stuff in envelopes and I sent them around surreptitiously to all kinds of people, which is, of course, not true. During the War of 1870, astronomer Jules Janssen risked his life for scientific prestige and French patriotism. It makes me think of the Donahue interview with Rushton. However, Phil's life changed after meeting Marlo Thomas on his talk show. web pages Rigo:Close. Especially of the southern, southern states in the United States had this one drop rule. We're losing. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. The Hagley Digital Archives provides online access to selected items from the Hagley Library's collection of images, documents, and publications related to the history of business, technology, and society. If you are concerned about the archival material presented here, or want to learn more about our ongoing work, please contact us at research@hagley.org. By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. Rigo:Yeah. Rigo:Of course, it had to be him. The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. Barry:You know when you don't want to know? It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. It is around this time in the early 1970s that something happened that could have been the end of The Pioneer Fund. This is taken from a "Classic Donahue" rerun in 1996. Rigo:It's called The Pioneer Fund, and over the years, it has bankrolled dozens of race scientists and other academics who push these kind of views. So where does all of this start? additions to the collection, news, and events. And since these race scientists all knew each other, the journal became kind of like an echo chamber, and they all praised and cited each other's work to give it the veneer of legitimate science. So, [laughter] that's how I knew the police didn't do it, because if they had done it, they would have done it right. Um, but most of the money that Shockley got Well, in fact, really all of the money that Shockley got had nothing to do with research. So I want to take you back to the 1990s with this video that I found on YouTube. I, Issue 2 (May, 1991) Twenty Minutes (August, 1991) Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Laughlin gave them a kind of eugenics spin, giving them a kind of scientific veneer that they didn't have before the Eugenics Movement came along. Lisa:This is that method one you mentioned, right? And then he has a long and thorough correspondence and involvement with people in Germany both before and after the Nazi ascendancy. Lisa:I appreciate how clearly Barry Mehler gets to the heart of the issue. And here the relationship was reversed, in which Pioneer or Draper would contact these people and say, "Oh, I see you're doing things. He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. Lisa:Welcome to Innate: How science invented the Myth of Race: This is episode three: Keepers of the Flame. It's kind of a misunderstanding, or a misuse of Darwin's theory of evolution, and it's actually interesting that it's Darwin's cousin, his half cousin, Sir Francis Galton, who really advocates for this idea of genetic determinism. In 1971, he became the chair of the Department of Anthropology and Comparative Religious Studies at the University of Southern Mississippi. Lisa:Okay. Photo credit to Steve Kagan. He also shares the story of meeting wife Marlo Thomas, how he feels about being parodied on Saturday Night Live, and what he really thinks of Oprah Winfrey. Can you give us TLDR synopsis of it? Lisa:So they really do move underground. Lisa:Yeah. on September 9, 2018. Associate Producer: Padmini Ragunath Barry:It was apparent to me that we were putting on a show, and that I was part of this show, and I was performing a- an important task for the racist platform because they couldn't do it without me. 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