And Hitler takes over. Our food source then moves into our bodies. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you an un-understandably evil man, no motives, no reason; any idea what the hell he was intending? He could do anything. It's a good one. Radiolab is supported by Casper. Radiolab.org. Is an absolute order. Whatever it is. Radiolab. And you know what? And not just yeses. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. Can we really know that? But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. And he believed it. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. Iago. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. I'm about to help this quest for knowledge. Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. Uh, if I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." Um, could you just- just tell me, uh, the little story that you begin your book with? Yeah. Pat, go ahead. You mean they're looking at 20 million people going hungry? But we thought we would- we would play this show, uh, about a little bit of bad that is in all of us. And oddly enough, we got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy-. I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. "This was a moment in German history," he says, "When Jews had a decent amount of freedom.". We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. They continued shocking their corpses. But the generals were not all that convinced? Well, I can use that same process to make explosives because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb.". The shocker would say, "Hell no I don't.". How do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. Give me two more minutes. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. God, 'cause it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of human's latent capacity of evil. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. 'cause actually he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. Birds would just fall from the air. ", Um, but Haber just kind of ignored her and-, He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. Addeddate 2012-10-10 05:15:40 Boxid OL100020610 Identifier wnycs-radiolab_the-bad-show Add Review 4 Views DOWNLOAD OPTIONS 1 file ITEM TILE 4 Files 4 Original This is just a tsunami of evil-, And at the very end of the play, when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. It was- it was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. Shoots herself in the chest. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. This is RadioLab. This is Radiolab and today we're talking about Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. Sounds insane. Yes. You wouldn't though. All right. To the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? I'm going to take a break. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think when you're enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, "What is greater, and what is good?". He has these pince-nez spectacles. Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". Bald on top. So, go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30 day trial and a few audiobook. When you needed to stop for breath, your hand ran light and steady. Well what is something's happened, the man had an attack or something there? All right, just to back up for one second. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters. Gary is dancing around this topic. Yeah. Even when they go along with the experiment-. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". Like, saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy.". I think I call it pince-nez, so I'm not sure. They're doing it because they think they ought to. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. You can find out more information about all those guys on our website, radiolab.org. In the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. Yellow mucus was frothing out of their mouth, those who could still breathe would turn blue. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. More energy than seemed, like, possible to make. Gary says, "I needed to kill." And it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences, and to approach it with kind of crazy joy? And then, Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering her with a pillow. ", Yeah, so here's the interesting thing. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen, he just kind of went crazy, he had snapped; and almost blaming the victims. And why I cared for her because I dated her before, but this day didn't turn out right. They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. The participants that are there in this study-. Nice sky? Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. And so, we've decided that it's time to go back to something we did once upon a time when we were wondering about good and bad. And we didn't really come to any kind of agreement with the Haber thing. And you've done this how many times before. And then he just trails off. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. Dylan Keith is our director of sound design. (laughs). I mean, it's the fact that of course that they're administering main to a strange. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. That's radio producer Ben Walker. Time's up. Yeah. He could have never imagined that. Cruelty, violence, badness. But that's not what he found. Pince-nez, okay. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. ", Only 10 percent, under those circumstances, go on. And so, 1918 Fritz Haber gets a Nobel Prize, but this is why he's such an interesting guy. So- so first of all, could you just like, uh, when did he live and what did he look like and that kind of stuff? He goes straight to the German [inaudible 00:36:56] and- and he pitches this idea. It's 0924 hours on June 17th, year 2003. So, who is- who is this guy right here? Yeah. What's the noble cause in this case? And I used to socialize with him and his wife. So, he ends up admitting it. ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. And I used to socialize with him and- and his wife. There's a pause and my father just says. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. I can't quite place him-. Look, the participants, it's not just blind obedience, "Oh you tell me so, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". Well, actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. "I need to kill because of that." It is- it is arguably the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. People like director Sam Mendez, musicians Jean Batiste, and Wynton Marsalis, Call Your Girlfriends [inaudible 00:27:12], and our very own Alec Baldwin. They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. He won't answer. So these are some word pairs. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. The son, eventually, after he emigrates to America kills himself. "From this time forth, I never will speak a word." Just to back up for one second. The time now is 08:36 hours. Only then does God speak up and kind of say, like, "You're gonna question me?" By the ocean of breath twice, I remember I carried your oxygen. That's it? Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. Listen Now. And it's kind of surprising. Yeah, I agree with that. He felt publicly humiliated. An mlsconsumeraccess.org number 3030. Nobody had done what she was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. It just that-, Yeah. So, he decided he was going to invent a process to pay for these reparations by himself and what he decided to do is go into the ocean, into seawater, which contains, um, uh, some very small levels of gold. Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. Yes. Why did you do this?" Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. Now, we don't actually know if he threw a party. Can you hear me? Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. And what is basically like the Baghdad of his time. Was it nice day? He was in this state of fury, he said, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror, and then realized that he had to leave the house, or he was going to do damage to her. But if you think that's the right thing, if you think that science is worth pursuing you say, "Okay, I'll go along with this.". After all he knows what he can stand. And then he seemed fine. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. With a history of industry leading online lending technology developed in the heart of Detroit, Rocket Mortgage is changing the game. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. [inaudible 00:49:36] bad people in Shakespeare. James Shapiro, professor of English at Columbia University. I mean you have to remember, during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. 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